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Topic 16        Tue Oct 18, 1988
J.ATTARD [HOSB sysop]        at 21:25 EDT
Sub: announcements                          

Here's what's new in the HOSB!
3 new messages.
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Message 30        Wed Nov 28, 1990
J.ATTARD [Janet(sysop)]      at 21:44 EST
 
 Steve Roberts, author of the Computing Across America series  available here
online is looking for help with his next trip, and asked me to post the
following note: ======== "As you may know, I have been wandering on a
computerized  recumbent bicycle for a few years (Computing Across America, 
Nomadness, High-tech Nomad, etc), and I am planning to return to  the road
full-time in July.

   I have a very specific need that is hard to fill in the high-pressure high-
dollar Silicon Valley, where I am currently building the new machine (with one
of my sponsors, Sun Microsystems).  I need a base office.
<RETURN>, <S>croll, <Q>uit ?s

   This person, or couple, needs to handle all communications, media contacts,
proposals, financial matters, interface with publishers, and so on,
communicating with me via GEnie daily.  Hours and all that are completely
irrelevant, and the work takes up perhaps 1 hour a day, with occasional bursts
of activity.  I'd like to dovetail with an existing media-oriented home
business, and if the person is willing, help construct a complete nomad-
support operation based on my 7 years of experience with this.

   A nice bonus would be for this person, or half the couple, to be a techie. 
I have a well-equipped lab that has to go somewhere.  And the "perks" include
a number of computers and laptops, complete working office system, and much
more.  Pay is a percentage of my income, to be negotiated depending on what
they can do to contribute.
   Any ideas????"
   Cheers!
  Steve Roberts
  Nomadic Research Labs
  GEnie, AOL, and MCI:  WORDY
  wordy@bikelab.Sun.com
  bikelab:  415-336-5037 ================== If there's anyone who would like
more information, please contact Steve  directly.

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Message 32        Tue Dec 04, 1990
J.ATTARD [Janet(sysop)]      at 02:05 EST
 
Marty, I'm moving your message to the DJNS topic.. I'm not sure Roy  reads all
new messages and might miss it here in category 1 where you left it. 
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Topic 21        Sat May 26, 1990
J.ATTARD [Janet(sysop)]      at 08:12 EDT
Sub: Watchdog                               

Let's keep one another informed about scams, schemes, and  questionable
businesses or business "opportunity" offerings.
7 new messages.
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Category 1,  Topic 21
Message 124       Fri Nov 30, 1990
COMPDESIGN [W.Moore]         at 22:27 EST
 
Hi everyone!  I've been getting requests for info on "utility rate
 auditing companies".  I know a little about them, but don't know
 too many specifics.

I know that for a fee, they are supposed to make a survey of
 utility expenses, and then provide advise on obtaining lower rates
 and reducing their use.  Some provide contracts for a set time
 period, which includes the analyzing of water, gas, and electric
 bills paid during the last five years, as well as an audit of
<RETURN>, <S>croll, <Q>uit ?s
 current bills.  They check for errors in the bills, and whether
 the correct rate is being charged to the client.

Honesty and lack of experience seem to be problems with many of
 these companies, particularly the "make $$$ easily at home by
 being a ..." providers of this service.

Don't have any specific companies, or personal knowledge or
 experience.  Have you seen this out there?

Thanks...

-- William
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Category 1,  Topic 21
Message 125       Sat Dec 01, 1990
J.ATTARD [Janet(sysop)]      at 01:50 EST
 
Hmmm......seems to me the local utility company does that here for free.
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Message 126       Sat Dec 01, 1990
JEFFCHASALOW [Jeff]          at 08:37 EST
 
I seem to remember reading about some of those companies.....seems that there
are a LOT of errors in utility company billing systems, and these outfits make
a GOOD dollar for the consumer companies and take (I think) a percentage of
the savings for their trouble.

If I see anything about them in the near future, i'll try to  remember to
upload the gist of tit here. Jeff
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Message 127       Sat Dec 01, 1990
R.DEE2                       at 11:38 EST
 
What about those 30 minute t.v. ommercial (incredible breakthrough).  I heard
those were scam as well.  It might look like they work on t.v., but  I heard
they were rehearsed.  Boy! picture can ply trick on you, if you  are not
careful.                 (Rich)
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Category 1,  Topic 21
Message 128       Sat Dec 01, 1990
MELODY.SHOP [Zakary]         at 15:55 EST
 
 Jeff: Gist of WHAT??!?

 Sorry, couldn't resist.
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Message 129       Sat Dec 01, 1990
JEFFCHASALOW [Jeff]          at 22:02 EST
 
whooops......blush....what a typo.....hmmmmm....i'd better speak to my wife
about that...hehehe Jeff
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Category 1,  Topic 21
Message 130       Wed Dec 05, 1990
MACLEE                       at 07:03 EST
 
Keep the pressure on Zakary, Jeff does that ALL the time (grin).

I've also noticed those "ads" regarding the utility bill savings and the
"course work" home study program that is sold with them.  It simply makes me
think that this is yet another of the "endless" shams provided "free" to
viewers by the sponsors.  Isn't this just a natural outgrowth of  the real
estate "no money down" people since the real estate market has  been
depressed?  These fellows have to have something to occupy their time!

I can imagine the millions and millions of blank tapes they have yet to record
for our benefit (at a huge discount, of course).

I AM getting sick of the acid being spilled on the car hood - aren't YOU?
Aren't EVERYBODY?...Lee
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Topic 24        Wed Oct 10, 1990
J.ATTARD [Janet(sysop)]      at 02:01 EDT
Sub: New in the library                     

We'll be using this topic to keep you up-to-date on new library files.
15 new messages.
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Category 1,  Topic 24
Message 21        Thu Nov 29, 1990
J.ATTARD [Janet(sysop)]      at 01:57 EST
 
File 1903 is an archive of all HOSB files through file 1899  >with short
descriptions. It's archived with PKZIP, and requires PKUNZIP to unarchive, I
believe (I'm a Macintosh user.. someone correct me if I have the ZIP utility
name wrong).

If you want a list of files with long descriptions, right now we only have
that running through june 1989.  It's in file 1805, which I believe is also a
ZIP archive format.  If we don't have PKUNZIP in the HOSB library, you can get
in in the IBM library. 

<RETURN>, <S>croll, <Q>uit ?s
--Janet NOTE: there WOULD have been long descriptions through file 1899 BUT
after I downloaded them all, I somehow the file got trashed on my  system, and
the backup I had made of it was also unreadable.. and I just haven't had time
to download all the long descriptions again. Hope to get to that soon!
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Message 22        Thu Nov 29, 1990
P.BOETTGE [Phil]             at 09:00 EST
 
     Janet, I don't think that you should blame yourself.  The source file was
more likely corrupted when you downloaded it than that two copies were both
corrupted later.

          - Phil

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Message 23        Thu Nov 29, 1990
J.ATTARD [Janet(sysop)]      at 10:58 EST
 
No, it was a script I was using to download, and then I started playing with a
macro to strip out the unneeded lines between each file  description.. and
THEN I think I decided to save the file.. And THEN the next day discovered I
had some how trashed both the original and  the backup files... So I suspect
this time it was good old human error.. though it would be nice to blame the
computer <Grin>... Getting all those long descriptions takes quite a bit of
time, and I just haven't had the time since then to free up the computer for a
couple of hours to capture all of that again. It will get done soon.. with a
little luck.
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Message 24        Thu Nov 29, 1990
R.GOYER [DICK]               at 20:33 EST
 
By replying, hopefully aladdin tech. will take me back here using the 'N'
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Message 25        Thu Nov 29, 1990
G.LENZ [George]              at 21:19 EST
 
Janet:

    I screwed up my homeoffi.dbf file and haven't been able to coax Aladdin
into  getting all the files listed again: it keeps breaking at the last file
I've read.  Since I have cleaned out the .DBF file of all the file listings
(leaving only the encoded header info), and it still won't work right, I
assume that there is some kind of marker on Genie.

    Do you know how I can change that marker so I can download "new" files
from day 1?  Or failing that, can you arrange a zipped HOMEOFFI.DBF file for
me to put onto my computer?

    Thanks in advance for your time.
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Message 26        Thu Nov 29, 1990
J.ATTARD [Janet(sysop)]      at 23:31 EST
 
Ummmmmmmmmm if I knew what a DBF file was........... (Mac user, remember?
<grin>)... If you're talking about the bulletin board, have a LOT of disk
space and use the READ All CAT=1-29 NOR command.. or you might want to do it
one category at a time, then you'd set to each category, turn on  your capture
buffer, and type REA ALL NOR  (the NOR is for no reply). at the first prompt
you see, type S for scroll and the messages will continue without you hitting
return.

I think the bbs will take more than 5 megs of space at the moment to  capture,
though.


If you meant library files, theres a zipped archive of all files through 1899
in the library.  I'm NOT sure how to get those lists into  aladdin if that's
what you need to do.. Check in the Aladdin RT for help on that. --Janet
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Message 27        Fri Nov 30, 1990
J-V-K [Joni]                 at 01:07 EST
 
George, I think I read somewhere that there are some Aladdin files that
shouldn't be edited (touched by human hands - hehe), perhaps you should check
over in the Aladdin RT.... they should answer you real fast!

= Joni =
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Message 28        Fri Nov 30, 1990
G.LENZ [George]              at 03:45 EST
 
Janet and Joni:

    Thanks for the replies.  I'll leave the query in the Aladdin RT.

    BTW Janet, the .DBF file is a database file for the short library
listings.  Since my genealogy RT library file now seems screwed up too (after
loading up Aladdin 1.4 tonight), the problem would appear more difficult than
simply fixing my HOSB file.

    Oh well ........
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Message 29        Fri Nov 30, 1990
J.ATTARD [Janet(sysop)]      at 10:00 EST
 
Ok, thanks. NOw I know what .DBF stands for. When my CP/M was working I always
used to use .DTA as the extension for data files.. I guess because I had seen
them named that way in one of the programs I used on that.
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Message 30        Fri Nov 30, 1990
M.LAWLOR1 [Marty]            at 22:13 EST
 
Dick,

It will.  You can also go on manually and mark topics by SETting a category
number and then MARKing the topic number.

        e.g. Set 1
             Mark 24

will do the same thing as replying to this topic.  'N' will then d/l any
unread messages.

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Message 31        Fri Nov 30, 1990
GNOVOSIELSKI [GaryN]         at 23:23 EST
 
To:  G.LENZ [George]

You should NOT touch the .DBF files created by Aladdin with anything else. 
Work only from copies.  While the .DBF files themselves are compatible with
.DBF viewers, the .IDX files are not.  Even a program which does nothing more
than put an End Of File mark on the .DBF file can make it useless to Aladdin.

If you need to recover from ground zero, stop by the Aladdin RT and we'll get
you straightened out.


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Message 32        Fri Nov 30, 1990
M.BELL8 [Milt Bell]          at 23:27 EST
 
To:  G.LENZ [George]

In an earlier message, you said:

 >>Do you know how I can change that marker so I can download
 >>"new" files from day 1?  Or failing that, can you arrange a
 >>zipped HOMEOFFI.DBF file for me to put onto my computer?

George,

Since your .DBF file is corrupted, you can get a complete new list of files by
deleting Aladdin's HOMEOFFI.FMK and HOMEOFFI.IDX files, and changing the "Last
file date" entry on your RoundTable SetUp Menu to read "800101" (without the
quotes).

For future info, Aladdin's ALADFILE.TXT contains a description of what the
various Aladdin files do (they're listed by extension).

BTW, did you run ALADCVT before copying the new Aladdin 1.40 to your hard
disk?  Seems you may have overwritten your configuration files when you copied
the 1.40 files.


Milt

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Message 33        Sat Dec 01, 1990
J-V-K [Joni]                 at 01:44 EST
 
Janet, I'm not sure what DBF file is either, but I'd ventur a guess that it is
a database file.  = Joni =

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Message 34        Sat Dec 01, 1990
JEFFCHASALOW [Jeff]          at 08:38 EST
 
DBF files ==> Data Base File.... generally created by dBase and other database
type programs.....and in a specific format where the layout is embedded in the
file itself. Jeff
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Message 35        Sat Dec 01, 1990
J.ATTARD [Janet(sysop)]      at 10:42 EST
 
Here are a couple of new files uploaded in the last few days:

There's a sales prospecting shareware program that sounds perfect for anyone
using laptops because it doesn't require much memory. It's file #1967, and
it's called Prospector 1.0.  It's for IBMs and compatibles.

If you're looking for a way to transfer database and spreadsheet and other
types of files back and forth beteween Macintosh applications or between
Macintosh and PC applications without loosing variable and other information,
there's a demo of a Macintosh program called DBMS/COPY MAC now in the library.
It's file number 1956. The company also makes a PC program for the same
purpose.

a couple of text files you may find interesting: There's the results of a
survey of small businesses on the availability of loans for business and on
the overall confidence level of small  business owners regarding the economy.
It's file #1968.

If you want to get an idea of what the entrepreneurial spirit is all  about,
read about someone who has been through the same emotional ups and downs you
have, take a look at file 11963. It's a reprint of one of Steve Roberts
Computing Across America columns, and is good reading.

You'll also find lots of new profiles in the library. I hope when you are
looking for suppliers for your business you'll check out the  profiles
section. Online is a great way to network nationwide and make it possible for
businesses across the country to support each other.

There are lots of other new files in the library as well. And we thank
everyone for their uploads. --Janet
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Topic 27        Sun Nov 18, 1990
E.R.MAYER                    at 22:25 EST
Sub: BUSINESS PLAN                          

I would like help in writing a business plan.  Is help available ?


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Message 3         Wed Dec 05, 1990
PGAS [PAUL SMITH]            at 02:37 EST
 
Can you help me find the file that extracts the SBA loan file?  I checked the
IBM R/T software section but I don't know which version of unarchive file to
use on file #557.

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Message 4         Fri Dec 07, 1990
M.BELL8 [Milt Bell]          at 02:47 EST
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To:  PGAS [PAUL SMITH]

In an earlier message, you said:

 >>Can you help me find the file that extracts the SBA loan file?  I
 >>checked the IBM R/T software section but I don't know which
 >>version of unarchive file to use on file #557.

File #557 is SBALOAN.ARC.  To un-archive this file, you need to get
 a copy of ARCE.  Go back to the IBM-PC RT Software Library and
 download File #13889 (ARCE40C.COM) and File #13890 (ARCE40C.DOC).

If the file numbers have changed, a keyword search for ARCE should
 locate the newest version of the program.

Good luck.


Milt



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Message 5         Sun Dec 09, 1990
PGAS [PAUL SMITH]            at 00:53 EST
 
Milt:
 Thanks for the help.  I found ARC602.EXE, FILE # 13940 on the IBM R/T is one
file that extracts the file #557 (SBA loan file).
 --Paul--


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Topic 31        Tue Nov 27, 1990
J.MEAGHER [Jim]              at 00:54 EST
Sub: Option 6 BROwse new msgs               




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Category 1,  Topic 31
Message 4         Wed Dec 05, 1990
MACLEE                       at 07:33 EST
 
I was off a week and have 450 messages to read too!  Is GEnie/HOSB a success
or what?  This is great stuff here!
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Message 5         Wed Dec 05, 1990
J-V-K [Joni]                 at 20:18 EST
 
Lee for that very reason I NEVER miss a day without browsing, no matter WHAT
<RETURN>, <S>croll, <Q>uit ?s
my schedule is... Whew!  :)
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Message 6         Thu Dec 06, 1990
MACLEE                       at 07:43 EST
 
If your schedule included a trip to Zanzibar with a side trip to Aukland, I
seriously doubt HOSB would be part of that schedule.  (unless, of course  you
were able to have one of your "staff" compile a digest for you and then fax it
to you while airborne) - Yeah - that's it!
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Topic 35        Mon Dec 03, 1990
T.KORNBLUH [tom]             at 20:45 EST
Sub: Creating mail and contact lists-sources

I woould like resources - electrobnic and otherwise that can help me to create
 prospect lists of businesses that I can focus on for my consulting and 
training business. Small to medium sized, mostly private firms.
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Category 1,  Topic 35
Message 1         Tue Dec 04, 1990
J.ATTARD [Janet(sysop)]      at 02:19 EST
 
Tom, as someone (William, maybe?) mentioned in Category 1, a couple of good
sources of lists suitable for your type of business would be the local chamber
of commerce, Better Business Bureau, Lions' or other business people's
organizatons.  Beyond that, it's difficult to say without a better idea of who
your target market is (what industries) where they are located, how close or
far from your region you want to solicit business, etc.  In the long run, you
will probably benefit more from networking than mailings. --Janet
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Message 2         Tue Dec 04, 1990
J-V-K [Joni]                 at 19:25 EST
 
Ditto... what Janet said... I can't underscore networking enough that is how
people will get to know you and you to know them! Voila... business comes your
way!

= Joni =
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Message 3         Thu Dec 06, 1990
M.LAWLOR1 [Marty]            at 20:37 EST
 
Tom,

Try American Business Information (used to be American Business Lists) in
Omaha, Nebraska: 402-331-7169.  They offer reasonably priced list in a variety
of formats (disk included).

You can browse manufacturer and all the various groupings by SIC code or
alphabetically.  Reasonably priced - start about $ .12 / name.
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Topic 37        Sun Feb 25, 1990
J.ATTARD [Janet(sysop)]      at 13:45 EST
Sub: The Home Office Phenomena              

News and notes about trends in home offices and work at home jobs.
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Message 36        Thu Nov 29, 1990
MULTISPEED [michael]         at 00:20 EST
 
a pet named "bandit" barking in the background???  Yikes - my problem is my
cat named "bandit" nuzzeling my face while I am on the phone!
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Message 37        Thu Nov 29, 1990
T.SMITH99 [SANDRA]           at 19:27 EST
 
Mine is my neighbors playing Jimi Hendrix at top volume while I talk to
clients on the phone.  Sounds like a wild party in progress.

<RETURN>, <S>croll, <Q>uit ?s
Sandra
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Category 1,  Topic 37
Message 38        Thu Nov 29, 1990
SEITZINGER [Kent]            at 20:15 EST
 
Jimi Hendrix, S andra? At least they have good taste, foxy lady.
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Message 39        Fri Nov 30, 1990
J-V-K [Joni]                 at 01:08 EST
 
HAHAHAHAHA... Michael, if you ever saw Bandit, not ony does he bark "hello" to
all customers, he actually stands up at the window and makes contact (with
nose)... he looks like a small bear.... is a gorgeous dog and is admired by
99% of the people who come in.  Once in a while someone will be scared of this
thing that pops up at the window.  We think he's a cross between Terrier &
Newfoundland... is gorgeous!

Kent... do ya suppose he could be added to the Board of Directors? <grin>...
he does get paid in biscuits.

= Joni =  <--- ducking TOPic Cops....
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Message 40        Fri Nov 30, 1990
SEITZINGER [Kent]            at 20:22 EST
 
"Bow wow!"
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Message 41        Fri Nov 30, 1990
S.CONROY1 [S.Conroy]         at 21:27 EST
 
I've worked in an office and now work out of my home (although it's not in a
spare bedroom but in a real studio built specifically for the purpose, after
20 years of wanting one!). When I first started in the
graphics/design/copywriting arena, it was necessary to have an office to get
credibility. In fact, the interior of your office is almost a "calling card"
for your design skills and success. Now that I am more established, working
out of my home is ideal for me. I usually visit clients at their office
anyway, so it's not a big issue with them. And those that come here, well,
they seem envious if anything!

Zoning is a problem; I'm not allowed to advertise (even a sign in the window),
and the city held a public hearing to determine if I was going to run down the
neighborhood! Also there are severe restrictions on parking, employees, etc.
But for me, for now, it's a great solution. Sure cuts down on the overhead!
Plus, whenever I get a brilliant idea, I can be "at the office" in 30 seconds,
even in my bathrobe.

Sonsie
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Message 42        Sat Dec 01, 1990
J.ATTARD [Janet(sysop)]      at 01:57 EST
 
Zoning IS still a problem for a lot of home businesses. I hope others remember
to check out the zoning laws before they plan to open a home  office.  BTW,
one instance I know of, a couple bought a new home  specifically because it
had a building on the property being used as an office.  When they moved in
and started to operate their building, they had a little problem......seems
the previous owners had a special use permit for the builing, and their (new
owners) business didn't qualify for the special use permit.. they eventually
had to move out to  commercial space.
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Category 1,  Topic 37
Message 43        Sat Dec 01, 1990
SEITZINGER [Kent]            at 11:33 EST
 
And just think of the cost factors involved. Not only did tyhey have to pay
rent for something they anticipated would not be needed, but if they had
already purchased letterhead, business cards, etc, had obtained a business
phone number and had the phone installed, doen other things that cost money to
do again they have wasted a considerable amount of start-up money also. =Kent=
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Category 1,  Topic 37
Message 44        Sat Dec 01, 1990
T.SMITH99 [SANDRA]           at 13:52 EST
 
Sonsie,

Sounds wonderful.

Sandra
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Category 1,  Topic 37
Message 45        Wed Dec 05, 1990
MACLEE                       at 07:50 EST
 
Kent - ya forgot to add - "If they had only checked this with a lawyer  first,
they may have saved thousands of dollars and a lot of heartbreak." (How was
that, Roy?) /Lee
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Message 46        Wed Dec 05, 1990
SEITZINGER [Kent]            at 14:18 EST
 
But, I DO agree Lee. And I could probably recall many examples I observed in
my own practice with about 5 minutes of reflection. I think that the Fram line
about paying me now or paying me later is in fact quite true in the business
area as it relates to the use of an attorney. =Kent=
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Category 1,  Topic 37
Message 47        Thu Dec 06, 1990
MACLEE                       at 07:45 EST
 
Cheeesh the man is slick!  What a guy!
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Category 1,  Topic 37
Message 48        Fri Dec 07, 1990
CAPT.NEMO [Rocky]            at 10:47 EST
 
 hmmmmmmm....takes more than five minutes to see my reflection.
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Message 49        Sat Dec 08, 1990
PHOTOBASE2 [John Crane]      at 00:19 EST
 
Takes me a while to work up the courage, too.
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Message 50        Sat Dec 08, 1990
J.ATTARD [Janet(sysop)]      at 01:41 EST
 
Hehehe.. John, takes you a while to do what.. look at Rocky's reflection? --
Janet
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